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The Importance of Mindset with Guest Bo Eason: MakingBank S2E4


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The Importance of Mindset with Guest Bo Eason: MakingBank S2E4

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If there’s one thing every aspiring entrepreneur needs to realize when they’re just getting started it’s this:

Great success is a byproduct of great ambition.

It’s the big, lofty the goals, lead to big entrepreneurial the successes.

The entrepreneurs that “make it”? The ones that grace the cover of Forbes and Fortune? They aren’t the kind of people interested in running the race of business—they’re the men and women who want to WIN the race. They don’t care about setting “realistic” goals, they care about goals that are going to disrupt industries.

It’s a “think-big, win-big” mindset that leads to:

  • More aggressive plans of action for goal-attainment
  • The dismissal of all distractions standing in the way
  • Working with the best people (employees, mentors, etc.)
  • An unwavering, resolute commitment to success

And no one knows the importance of this mindset better than today’s Making Bank guest, Bo Eason—a professional football player, turned acclaimed Broadway playwright, turned personal development coach.

Bo believes great things can only be achieved by building on great dreams. It’s a philosophy that has led him to become one of the most successful personal-development coaches in the United States (his clients include Morgan Stanley and Dimensional Fund Advisors) and an acclaimed scriptwriter, whose Broadway play, Runt of the Litter, was recognized by New York Times as the one of the most powerful scripts of the last decade.

Tune in to hear Bo and Josh talk at-length about the importance of ambition, as well as…

  • The value of persistence in the acquisition of success
  • How goal-setting dictates your course of actions
  • The art of distraction elimination
  • Why the personal story is the most powerful tool for any entrepreneur
  • How to seek the best mentors in the world
  • The enigmatic power of your natural voice

And more…

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Josh Felber: Welcome to Making Bank, I am Josh Felber, where we uncover the success strategies of the top one percent so you can amplify and transform your life and your business today. I am honored and excited, we’re shooting from Bulletproof Conference live. I have an awesome mentor of mine that I’ve followed over the years, been able to sit through a lot of different trainings from him. He’s a former NFL standout, acclaimed Broadway play writer and performer. Present story coach to some of the most successful people in the world. His play Runt of the Litter, which was written and performed by himself has toured in over 50 cities, nationally. Runt opened in New York to rave reviews. The New York Times named it one of the most powerful plays in the last decade. Soon to be a major motion picture, he’s adapting Runt for the big screen. Frank Darabont …

Bo Eason: He’s going to be excited that you messed his name all up.

Josh Felber: He wrote the Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile, is producing this. After seeing the performance of Runt, Leonardo DiCaprio hired Bo to write a screenplay for his company based on the 1924 Olympic rugby team. He is also co-founder of the world’s greatest speaker training with Brendon Burchard, and senior fellow with the CEG Worldwide where he is the co-founder of Perfecting Your Personal Story, and Power of Presence. Bo Eason’s personal story power programs have reinvented how speakers communicate. I’m excited today to welcome Bo Eason to Making Bank. Welcome!

Bo Eason: Wow, Josh, that’s a heck of an introduction, man.

Josh Felber: That’s what they sent me, so.

Bo Eason: That’s good, trying to live up to that billing.

Josh Felber: One of the coolest things was when I first heard your story and it was a dream that you had since you were nine years old. I know remember starting my first business right around that age, and just where it took you in life. I just thought, “Man, we gotta have Bo on Making Bank.” We have entrepreneurs that watch this and they are building their dreams and following their passions. I’d love to hear a little bit about that, and tell our audience.

Bo Eason: A little bit about that initial story?

Josh Felber: Just initial story, yeah, when you were nine and this dream that you had.

Bo Eason: Yeah, when I was nine years old I had a dream. Just like all of us did. But I just took mine very seriously. I wanted to be the best safety in the whole world. A safety is a position in football. Most of the kids in school wanted to score a touchdown. I didn’t, I wasn’t interested in scoring touchdowns. I wanted to stop the guys who were trying to score a touchdown.

Josh Felber: Sure.

Bo Eason: So I drew up this plan. I took a crayon and some school paper and I drew up this plan, and the plan was a 20 year plan. So it was to end 20 years in the future. I was to be the best safety in 20 years. Well, as it turned out, I wasn’t very good initially. You know what I mean? I was little, I was slow. A lot of the kids I grew up with were a lot better than me. So when it came for me to go to college and play college football to keep this dream alive to be the best safety, there’s 350 colleges in the United States, and not one wants me. Not one. I mean, think of like the worst college you can imagine right now. They didn’t want me.

Josh Felber: They said no go.

Bo Eason: Yeah, even the junior colleges. So the dream was, you know, like it’s not going to happen. So I just invited myself to a small school there in my hometown, UC Davis, which played division two football. They don’t give scholarships, so it’s basically an intramural sport there at the time. So I go there to keep my dream alive, and you know, with a lot of trepidation and a lot of getting rejected, they eventually let me play. First of all, they cut me and sent me home, and I kept sticking around.

Josh Felber: Just kept coming back.

Bo Eason: I would go to the next practice, and I wouldn’t have a uniform. They took my uniform so I wouldn’t have one. But I begged the equipment guys, who are a couple of old grouchy dudes …

Josh Felber: [Sid Beasley 00:05:22], I remember the name.

Bo Eason: Sid Beasley. I don’t know what they saw in me, but they thought it was funny. They thought it was cute. So they gave me an un-matching uniform, and I just kept going out there and practicing and practicing and practicing. Eventually it came down to sneaking into a game and taking the place of one of our best players on the team, and running down, and making this play on the kickoff team. From that day on, every time I went to that locker, there was a varsity uniform in that locker.

Josh Felber: Wow.

Bo Eason: So from being the kid that can’t play at UC Davis, which doesn’t even give scholarships, to the best player at the safety position four years later, was a huge thing. So the dream actually came true. It’s so funny because everybody’s dreams come true, but I think we just give up on them a little too quickly and they … even up to the very last minute, it looked like it wasn’t going to happen. And then it happened. I think that’s the moment that people quit and then go, “I guess it’s just not going to happen.” You know?

Josh Felber: Yeah, definitely.

Bo Eason: So I just was, I think, maybe just not smart enough to stop. You know what I mean?

Josh Felber: That’s what, you know, businesses, I own 14 companies and you just keep trying stuff, trying to find the right thing that works. Maybe it is, maybe it’s just not smart enough to realize that that’s what it is.

And you were the smallest guy all along the whole time, right?

Bo Eason: Yeah, I was small but then I … when I got to college I weighed 145 pounds, so I was tiny. But when I graduated from college, I was 210 pounds. So I gained a lot of … I mean, when I went to college I didn’t have hair under my arms. You know what I mean? I didn’t have a muscle on me. No wonder they sent me home. And throughout those years, those four years that I was in college, I got strong, I got muscles, I got hair under my arms. I mean, imagine my surprise. Imagine my joy to see that.

So I got drafted by the Houston Oilers and played for five years in the NFL. Once that was over, I just took the same energy that it took to be the best safety and I put it into, what does it take to be the best stage performer of our time? What does that take? What does that look like? So I got Al Pacino to mentor me. It’s actually not really a mentorship, it was three hours. That was the extent of our mentorship.

Josh Felber: It’s better than none.

Bo Eason: Yeah, it was three hours of telling me what to do. I did it. He told me exactly what to do, and he told me it would take a long time. Told me it would take 12, 15 years. So I did, I just did everything he said, which was basically put my butt on a stage more than any other human being could do in 15 years. He said, “If you do that, at the end of the 15 years, you’ll be standing on top.” Then you know, 15 years later I was doing my play in New York, opening night, and I was nervous. I was backstage, and it’s a play I wrote, and I’m the only guy in.

Josh Felber: Right.

Bo Eason: I went out on stage and I was dying. It was like an out-of-body experience. Then I made eye contact with a guy sitting in row five, right on the aisle, and it was Al Pacino. He just looked at me, and we made eye contact, and I’m like, “Damn, that’s Al Pacino in the audience.” And he just nodded. Just gave me a nod, just like that. Like, “I got you man, you did it.”

Josh Felber: That’s awesome.

Bo Eason: You know?

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: It was so cool. Never really seen him since then, but took on what he prescribed. I remember after the end of that meeting, that three hour meeting, I said to him, “Hey man, thanks for spending this time with me. You must get this request all the time from actors and performers, right? They must come to you all the time.” And he goes, “No, actually, you’re the first.” I was like, “I can’t believe that no one had gone there.” He said, “No, actors and performers come to me all the time and they want me to make them famous, or they want to meet my agent. But no one ever said they wanted to take the mantel on being a stage performer.” Do you see what I mean?

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: So it’s like a whole different mindset. Advice that I would give everybody that’s watching us now or listening to us, when you want to be the best, which is I think our first [inaudible 00:10:08] is my belief, and our responsibility … Go to the best. Go to them because they’re the only one who has the answer. If you go to a silver medalist, they don’t have the answer, and they won’t share it with you. Have you ever noticed that? You go to second best, they’re very selfish. They’re very stingy.

Josh Felber: Sure.

Bo Eason: You go to the best, they’re generous. They tell you what … If you want to be the best, and they’re the best, they tell you how to do it. You see what I mean?

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: Don’t waste your time getting advice from people who are not the best. Don’t do it. They don’t have the advice to give you.

Josh Felber: That makes sense, and that’s one of the things for me I’ve always done over the years, is this. I would always try to align and find the best person I wanted to model myself after, and to learn from, specifically. It’s helped all along the way, for sure.

Bo Eason: Yeah.

Josh Felber: I know one of the things that I find common between the different, you know, whether it was football, with the play, with your speaking, and your businesses and everything you do now, it is your consistent tenacity and persistence. I remember a story you were telling about Jerry Rice when you signed on with the 49ers, and the whole thing with Al Pacino. It’s just time and time again you’re one of the hardest workers and persistent, and going after that.

Bo Eason: Yeah.

Josh Felber: How do you get yourself in that position to be able to continue to do better?

Bo Eason: Yeah, well once you make the commitment, the dream, the commitment to the dream is really everything.

Josh Felber: Sure.

Bo Eason: Because once that’s in place, now you’ve got leverage over yourself because the dream always rights the ship, because the ship, our ships, wherever our dream is that we’re heading for, are constantly off course. We’re based on distractions and putting out fires here, you’re always off course. Our jobs is to right the ship toward the dream, to what we want. I don’t think of myself as persistent, and I don’t think of myself as disciplined. I just don’t think of that. All I know is, I know the dream, and the dream is not second place. It’s first. It’s first.

Josh Felber: Right.

Bo Eason: So that rights the ship every time. So if you and me make a commitment today that in three months we’re going to run the New York City marathon … but not only are we gonna … most people go, “Well, we’re just going to finish.” We say to ourselves, let’s win this fucker. Let’s see if just you and me, let’s see if we can win this shit.”

Josh Felber: Right.

Bo Eason: Right? Can I cuss? Is that okay?

Josh Felber: Sure.

Bo Eason: Okay. I guess I asked a little late. So if we commit to winning the New York City marathon instead of finishing, what do you think our day tomorrow is going to look like? If we’re going to run that in three months, our night tonight is different. Right? Because we’re not going to be out drinking beers, are we?

Josh Felber: Right.

Bo Eason: Right?

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: Because of the commitment, now we’re not drinking beers. Now our diet has to change because we know we gotta get 10 miles in tomorrow. And not just ten miles, we gotta keep up with the world class. So we’re going to be sore, our whole three months is laid out perfectly because us trying to win the New York City marathon rights the ship every time. So all these distractions that will come to you and me in these next three months, we’re going to have to right the ship because we know that date is on the books, and it’s not negotiable.

That’s why I think, instead of reducing yourself down to a mediocre dream, which is what most people do, they settle for a lesser dream, or a lesser life. They go, “Well, I mean I’ll just, she’s kind of pretty, I’ll just marry her.” And that’s how [crosstalk 00:13:54]. You know? Instead of going, “No, that’s the best. I’m going to marry the best.”

Josh Felber: Right.

Bo Eason: I’m telling you, once you get that kind of mindset, now there’s no such thing as distractions. I mean, there’s distractions, we just don’t notice them.

Josh Felber: We just don’t notice them, yeah.

Bo Eason: Right. And I think for entrepreneurs, I mean look, we’re entrepreneurs for a reason. We’re driven, we don’t want a boss, we want to be the boss. So there’s all kinds of stuff for us to be doing. Money over here, the team over here, got to travel over here. Well, you know, it’s about limiting all those distractions, and getting really clear on what the dream is, and then every time you’re off course, right yourself with your commitment to the dream. So I feel as undisciplined as anybody listening to this. I do! I don’t feel disciplined. I’m sure Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, I’m sure they don’t feel disciplined. I’m sure they’re just trying to be the best player in the world. That’s what rights their ship.

Josh Felber: That makes sense. I mean, you can see the difference when you think of it from that perspective. How that can change your whole outlook on where you’re going in the decisions that you make along the way, for sure.

Bo Eason: Right.

Josh Felber: So tell me a little bit now what do you got going on now? What are you doing? I know you’re …

Bo Eason: Yeah, my wife and I, we have a Personal Story Power event, and we do that twice a year. It turned out to be an amazing event. My wife produced Runt of the Litter when it was in New York, and she’s producing the movie, and she’s producing the movie you talked about that Leonardo DiCaprio bought.

Josh Felber: Sure.

Bo Eason: She’s just an amazing producer. What she’s able to do now that we’ve shifted to the speaking and the training world, is what I ask of people, is everything. I ask that their dreams come true, and I ask them to commit fully to the dream. Like winning the New York City marathon instead of finishing. And to do that you have to have a really safe environment. I mean like, you have to have a safety net. And that’s what my wife, Dawn, is always providing for me, our kids, and our clients. She is a safety net, she provides safety so we can risk it all, and fall flat on our faces, and she’s like, “Okay you’ve got this, now pick it back up. You’re good. Dust yourself off, [inaudible 00:16:15].” You know? She’s a Spartan mom in that way, a Spartan mom. No war has ever been won unless based on the strength of the men. It’s always based on the strength of the women that have to bear up under the loss of the men, of their husband or their sons.

So what it turns out that Dawn and I are best at, are building people’s dreams, and allowing them to come true. We start in the personal story power event because once people know their story, and they’re clear on their defining moment, like why are you the way you are? It’s usually based on the story when you were a kid. And all of us entrepreneurs who are listening and watching us now, we’re all like that. That’s just how it goes. Well, my belief is that is the most powerful thing that you’ve got. That is the goal that you need, that story. Because as soon as you can get up and start to share that story, then people around you know how to follow. That’s why we start there, because as soon as you know your story, and you actually can physicalize that story, because when I say physicalize, you know, human beings are predators, we are predators. And I know that’s kind of a bad word these days in our culture, like the media makes it out to be the worst of our society gets the best [inaudible 00:17:37].

Josh Felber: The best … yeah.

Bo Eason: Right?

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: We’re predators. We’re lethal, we’re dangerous, but yet we’re noble, trustworthy. We can build things. We’re amazing. We’re predators. No different than a cheetah or a lion or a killer whale. That’s who we are. And we have to get reintroduced to that, and we do that. I bring in the guy who trained me how to do that, Jean-Louis Rodrigue, into our three day events.

Josh Felber: Cool.

Bo Eason: And he gets his hands on people and turns them into who they naturally are. Once you start to move and speak how you naturally are, people can’t look away from you.

Josh Felber: That’s awesome.

Bo Eason: They can never dismiss you. So imagine now, your company now. Imagine what that means to your company. If no one can look away from you, they have to … because you can’t look away from a predator. That’s the rule, right?

Josh Felber: Right.

Bo Eason: You put a lion right here between us, I don’t care how many hours goes by, you and me are not blinking. We’re like, “There’s a lion in front of us.” We’re not saying anything, we’re not, “I gotta go to the bathroom.” We’re not complaining. We’re focused. That’s how I want my audiences. And that’s what we teach people to do, so that they can build the company of their dreams. But they gotta be able to say it, they gotta be able to share, so that then other people can help them build.

Josh Felber: So what’s process you take them through? Without sharing all the secrets.

Bo Eason: You mean at the event?

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: Yeah, the first thing we do is capture their story. Everyone’s got defining moments. Very pivotal defining moments. Usually comes between the ages of nine and 12. You might not be able to think of it right now, because most people want to think of their successes, and I’m telling you do not do that. That’s a bad story. Everybody who’s listening or watching right now, think of your proudest moment of your life. Think of it.

Josh Felber: One of the things you always hear, you want to be a leader, you need to be a leader, you need to be a leader. But nobody’s talking about learning your story, know your story.

Bo Eason: No, right.

Josh Felber: You don’t hear that at all. It’s like, you gotta do this and this and this, that’s how you get to be a leader.

Bo Eason: Look, they did a study on leadership, right?

Josh Felber: Right.

Bo Eason: So they did the study, and the study started with Julius Caesar in the middle of the Roman Empire. It went through all these leaders, all the way up to the 2012 American presidential election, and all the leaders in between. But not just presidents and kings and queens. Lady Gaga was a part of this study. Osama bin Laden, of all people, was a part of this study.

And they wanted to know, why do people follow other people? Which is why Lady Gaga or someone like Osama bin Laden would be in there. They come up with the number one quality that every leader had, from Julius Caesar to 2012. The number one ability that they had to have, was they had to have the ability to tell their own story. To tell their own story, think about that.

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: Because all they’re doing, all a story does is once I share my story with you, you and me have a brotherhood forever. That bond is unbreakable. You see what I mean?

Josh Felber: Right.

Bo Eason: But if I go, “Hey man, hey Josh, let’s be buddies man. Let me lead you.” That ain’t working! Right? Because you’re like, “Why would this guy want to lead me?”

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: Yeah, right? But if I share, you know, “Look man, I had this dream when I was a kid, and they said I couldn’t have it.” And I said, “Eff that, man, I’m having it.” Now you and me gotta brotherhood, forever. You see what I mean? That’s the connective tissue the world is waiting to hear, and people just don’t know to give it to them. You see what I mean?

Josh Felber: Yeah, definitely.

Bo Eason: If politicians learn this, like you know, bad people, evil people have learned this. Hitler learned it. He told a hell of a story and people believed. People believed. Osama bin Laden, evil story, right? Let’s fly some planes into buildings and kill people. But they believed they were doing the right thing. It was great storytelling used for the bad purpose.

Josh Felber: Sure.

Bo Eason: Now, what if you and me use it for the right purposes? For the dreams that you have, the vision that you have for this company that you’re building? Now you tell your story, now people follow you, that’s responsible. You know?

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: Now you take them to where they want to go anyway. They want to go with you, and they should go with you. If you have the ability to share your stuff and you’re willing to do that, that takes some balls, man. It’s brave. Most of us don’t want to share those painful moments where you got your butt kicked. You share that kind of stuff, now you’ve got people on your side. Now you’ve got a team.

Josh Felber: Right, when people connect with you, then for sure. I think that’s a key piece that as entrepreneurs we miss out on, for sure. That’s really cool you’re bringing it up now for people to learn from.

Bo Eason: Yeah.

Josh Felber: So then kind of the whole next step then, they come in, they learn, they learn their whole story. Then what’s that next step in that training process?

Bo Eason: Then those three days are over, but it’s funny we have this continuing relationship with most of our clients. In fact, we do a year long program, mastermind program, which goes very deep, and it’s pretty intense. You know what I mean? So you start to learn who you actually are. It’s kind of the world that you’ve been indoctrinated into. You know, like your parents are telling you you’re this, and the media tells you you’re mediocre, and then a politician tells you that you need his help, or her help. You’re like, “Actually, I don’t really need your help.” You know what I mean?

Josh Felber: Yeah.

Bo Eason: You’re being indoctrinated, too, by your teachers, by your coaches, by everybody. And then you think that you’re this thing. What Dawn and I do is we attack all those things that you think you are, that you are not. Until we only have Josh. Until we only have this thing that is purely you. And that is your story. And then physicalize that thing, and then all my people then begin to go out and speak and do their own events, if they haven’t done it already.

Josh Felber: Right, okay.

Bo Eason: And they begin to build their audience and they get to build their people. It’s just been really cool to watch because we get people who are in from areas where you wouldn’t think. Like, you know what we get a lot, why I’m always shocked? We get a lot of elite military guys.

Josh Felber: Oh, wow.

Bo Eason: Like, Navy SEALs, and Green Berets, Special Forces. And we get a lot of entrepreneurs because look, they’re basically a one man show, or one woman show. Even though they have teams, they’re really the voice, the brand, the face, they’ve got to be able to get in front of people and tell them their vision and what they’re building, so that people can fund them, so people can help them build, or be their customers.

Josh Felber: Right.

Bo Eason: They’ve got to be able to do that. Once you do that, now you have the keys to the kingdom, right? Which, evil people have known, and great people have known, and they use story the same way. It’s a very powerful method.

We built our company based on what we love, my wife and I. And what we love is dreams of people, like we love our kids’ dreams. We have a 12 year old, a nine year old, and a seven year old. We take them dead serious. Like if they tell us a dream, we don’t go like, “Well, that’s a great dream. That’s never going to happen.” Or we don’t go, “Yeah, it’s a dream.” We don’t do that. We start making a plan. We start drawing, we start making a map, we start going toward that dream. That’s what my wife and I, Dawn, that’s what we do best, and that is why we built a company exactly how we built it.

Now, we don’t have millions of people at our events, right? We keep them very intimate because of that. But it’s how we want it, and it’s really cool.

Josh Felber: No, that’s awesome. I love what you’re sharing today. I think people need to hear this, and hear this perspective, and what you’ve found that’s been able to really help people.

Bo Eason: Yeah, it’s been really fun. Like I said when we first started, remember I said, “Go to the best. If you want to be the best, go to the best.” I always think it’s just a waste of time … I remember when I got into the NFL, I got drafted, and there was like three or four guys who were faster than me. And I didn’t want anybody to be faster than me, because it’s a huge advantage to be the fastest, right? So I wanted to improve my speed. So who did I go to? The fastest man in the world, Carl Lewis, who just won the gold medal in the Olympics at the 100 meters, 200 meters.

Josh Felber: Sure.

Bo Eason: So I went to him. I go, “Dude, I want to be, there’s three guys that can beat me. Can you help me beat them?” He goes, “Yeah, but it ain’t gonna be easy.” I said, “Cool.” But I didn’t go to the silver medalist. What I’m telling you, is you go to the best because that’s known. That’s why in this area, the area of your story, and the physical expression of it, that happens to be what I am. I’m the best at this because it’s all I do, it’s all I think about.

So if your listeners and your viewers, if that’s what they want, and when they decide that they want to build the company of their dreams, then I’m your guy.

Josh Felber: No, that’s awesome.

Bo Eason: Yeah.

Josh Felber: Well, cool. What’s one technology that you can’t live without?

Bo Eason: You know, I’m not a very technical guy. My kids just laugh at me. I’m sure I have some …

Josh Felber: Some people say notepad and paper, so it doesn’t have to be …

Bo Eason: You know what? I do use … I write. I don’t, I can’t even … I cannot return emails for some reason. There’s something, I have a mental block. Really, I’m serious. I know that sounds stupid, but I cannot go like this. Even when I write, like I wrote the plays or screenplays, I had to write them longhand, and someone else transcribed them. But I just write longhand so that’s how I do it. But you know what? My kids have these big dreams, and their dreams are very physical, like my son wants to be an NFL player and an NBA player. My daughters want to be on Broadway, and dance, and sing, those kinds of things. So the technology we end up using the most in my family, are recovery technologies.

Josh Felber: Okay.

Bo Eason: Like a NormaTec suit, which is a compression suit.

Josh Felber: Yep.

Bo Eason: I don’t know if you’ve seen those?

Josh Felber: Yeah, I just used one the other day.

Bo Eason: Did you? Aren’t they awesome.

Josh Felber: Yeah, it’s so cool.

Bo Eason: Yeah, and we use cryotherapy. So we use that kind of technology. We use the NormaTec a lot. And we use rapid release, which is a machine that vibrates at such a high frequency that it actually breaks up scar tissue.

Josh Felber: I think I used that earlier today.

Bo Eason: You might have. So all the technology that my family seems to really thrive on, are recovery technology so that we can train hard the next day.

Josh Felber: No, that’s great. That’s really cool because it’s a whole different thing. I use a lot of that every day. I cryo and everything. I’m going to buy one of those vibrating …

Bo Eason: Yeah, those are cool.

Josh Felber: It helped a lot, so for sure. Well, I really appreciate you coming on Making Bank today. It was an honor to have you.

Bo Eason: Yeah, you’re welcome, Josh. It was awesome.

Josh Felber: Cool. I am Josh Felber, you’ve been watching Making Bank. Get out and be extraordinary!